hi guys!
is anyone sensing an increasingly sanctimonious arrogance in j-dubs recently?
im asking this as i am finding that with the two major news stories in the last few weeks (ie.
Ask them if they remember how giddy JW's got when the world trade centers went down on 9/11. That was 13 years ago.
Then ask them if back then they'd ever think they'd see this going on at the Kingdom Halls 13 years later. Especially when the end is supposedly even closer and peoples lives are at stake.
i hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.
Both my wife and I agreed that it's not that we're against JW's having fun or loosening up the reigns on what happens in the Kingdom Hall. It's just that we were so restricted. At every turn we were given Biblical reasons for those restrictions and stern warnings about not wanting to be imitating the Churches of Christendom or the world in any way.
If they'd just once acknowledge in their literature or from the platform, that they realize they were too strict, apologize for it and admit they are loosining the reigns a bit, you could accept these changes. It's when they just suddenly do an about face without any explaination, it makes the restrictions we lived under and the sacrafices we made, look like a huge joke.
this story goes back 2 years, when my girlfriend and i traveled to my homecountry in south america to spend the summer visiting my family and friends.
although i was still attending the meetings back then, i had already been inactive for a while.
the developments since that visit have been slow but dramatic, and my perception of the people inside the organization has changed greatly.
Interesting story. The guy in the restaurant probably thought you'd make a "good Jehovah's Witness" since you were so nice and all. He'll probably relate the experience at the next meeting and tell everyone how he planted a seed and how well the JW.org campaign is working out.
JW.Org is apparently their tool of choice these days....you don't have to even say anything much yourself....just point to your JW.Org button.
Your JW parents have "principals" to uphold....unlike your girlfriends Catholic parents who apparently can be kind without thought.
i hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.
This was all part of the entertainment provided by the local congregations where International Conventions were held, to welcome the visiting delegates. This is all sanctioned by Bethel. They wanted the local congregations to entertain the visitors with "local flavor". This Congregation is in Texas I beleive, hence the cowboy hats and boots.
This is the one from Detroit.
i hope no one here get's injured when they see this and their jaw hits the floor:.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689701664435095&set=vb.100001858044479&type=2&theater.
This song was from a movie about a bunch teenagers who rebeled against their religious bible thumping parents who out of concern for their kids morals and religious beliefs wouldn't allow them to have a high school dance.
How ironic that a bunch of JW's are dancing to it and even moreso that they are doing it at the Kingdom Hall. Whooping it up...shouting and line dancing on the same platform where the Memorial is conducted.
One time we had a 50's party at a rented hall and the Circuit Overseer got wind of it and at the following Circuit Assembly said we shouldn't have been imitating the world and honoring their celebrities, music and fads by dressing like them. We should have dressed like Witnesses in the 1950's engaged in the preaching work. (I kid you not!)
We just rolled our eyes and walked off. Man....have things changed.
scenecoco rocha is a devout jehovahs witnesslilian asante | jan 17, 2013 2:10 pm et | last updated: jan 17, 2013 5:20 pm et.
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It's ok to be part of the fashion world but God forbid a JW kid should ever go to college.
did you feel guilty over your sexual feelings or actions, while you were a jw?
the watchtower always wasnts people to feel guilty.
i know of many witnesses that would pioneer or volunteer for something, as an act of penance for their sexual sins or desires, even if they were married!.
I know of MANY Witnesses that would pioneer or volunteer for something, as an act of penance for their sexual sins or desires, even if they were married!
It would have been the opposite for me. Whenever I felt extra sinful, my conscience wouldn't let me go from door to door, recommending my way of life to other people when I wasn't living it properly myself.
The funny thing is, looking back....other than the occasional temper tantrum or cuss word, I never did anything to be ashamed of....but I sure felt like I did. Then I find out that a bunch of people I know, were living double lives while knee deep in organizational activities.
it is rare to get such a startling, sparkling, perfect example of this.. here is a snippet of a conversion going on at jwtalk.net regarding israel/gaza:.
http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/16268-peace-security-news/.
every one who is in the world today and dies tomorrow is in line for a ressurection.this is their best way of being in the new world.
If the wages of sin is death and if dying means one's sins are blotted out making one eligible for everlasting life, what's the difference if one dies of old age or of an ilness or at the hand of God at Armageddon ? By JW logic, death in any form is a punishment from God. If you die at Armageddon or beforehand, one way or another you've paid the wages of sin and should be resurrected.
i am 46 and have been a jw for only 6 years.
i was doing ok until about a month ago.
we were having an international convention and i heard the brother that had to pick up 2 of the members of the governing body had to get a background check done on him and his wife.
JustMe.....really?? a background check??? This is an all time low. It's as if they think they are rock stars or celebrities. I suppose in the JW world that's exactly what they are. They've lost touch with the real world. They are probably paranoid about encountering too much reality....perhaps a disgruntled former Witness or some situation where they are viewed as the ordinary people they are.
The funny thing is, they think nothing of sending children and little old ladies out from door to door or standing on steet corners like sitting ducks for god knows who, to come along and do whatever they please to them. Missionaries and Bethelites have to rely o Jehovah as they face all kinds of unsavory situations ranging from tropical diseases, primative living conditions and serving in dangerous lands or neighborhoods.
That comment about kids in school being "refuse" is typical. They say they have a love of their fellow man but in reality they distrust them, look down on them and view them as a nusience they have to put up with until God finally gets around to killing them.
Take your time....be smart.....don't burn any bridges unecessarily.
ok, i'll admit it...i am weak.... as everyone knows, the pressure to "pioneer" during "the most momentous, awesome, amazing, centenary anniversay of jesus invisble kigdom rule, & distribute tracts about a dodgy website" campaign is very strong at the moment.... also, many will have read my threads about the extreme views and expectations in our cong for "all appointed men to pioneer" etc..... every elder and ms and their families have been announced as pioneering....i mean everyone's name was read out except mine..... i was not going to do it, as i do not believe anyone should be forced...(and of course its the last thing on earth i would rather do anyway since learning ttatt).
but i am not quite ready to make the break yet, so i realised that i would stand out more if i didnt put in a form to pioneer.
yes it would make me more conspicious, and make fading harder to do...it would bring more heat on me if i didnt pioneer.. so i gave in and submitted a form.... now, of course, i'm only going to make sure i'm seen at the key field service groups etc...but then go and do something more interesting...like count blades of grass..... ahh....i feel hypocritical to myself now......
Pioneering out of Peer Pressure.....there are worse things you could do.
